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Some Religious Controversy...

Post: # 139213Post Egaladeist
Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:13 pm

OK...it seems to me that Islam has more in common with Judaism than either have with Christianity. The gist of the Koran ( Quran ) is more similar to the Talmud, and visa versa, than to anything in the Gospels or the letters of the Apostles.

This might lead someone to believe that Christianity wasn't so much an off-shoot to Judaism, or a reform, than a rejection to traditional Jewish dogma.

Was Jesus a reformer...or was he just dealing with the religious ideology of the day and, as a consequence, using an association to make his points but having no such real association with them?

The general principles of Christianity are more in line with Buddhism than with Judaism. And Judaism is far more in line with the principles of Islam.

So it would seem that Islam is the natural off-shoot of Judaism...and Christianity was the birth of a new religion, based upon the principles laid down.



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Re: Some Religious Controversy...

Post: # 139214Post rapier57
Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:46 pm

Well, I won't go into details, 'cause we don't need jihadists hitting the site. Yes, the Quran (however it is spelled) is derived, largely, from the Torah. Mohammed lifted a lot from the Jewish text--but not all, then added his own stuff. He rejected the diety of Jesus and most of the doctrine of the early Christians. This was some 400 years AD.

Unfortunately, it only took a generation to split (Shia and Suni) when the sons went different ways, and some of the biggest battles of the time were fought between the two factions.
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Post: # 139249Post dinowuff
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:24 pm

c. 570 CE Birth of Muhammad

c. 650 Caliph Uthman has the Qur'an written down.

313 Edict of Milan issued by Constantine - Christianity becomes a legal religion within the Roman empire

1099 Crusaders conquer Jerusalem.

1187 Jerusalem recaptured by a Moslem army led by Saladin.

1100-1200s Sufi orders (turuq) are founded.

1126-98 Life of Averroës, Muslim philosopher from Cordoba who sought to integrate Islam with Greek thought.

My Point - I seldom have one.

Jew and Islam are damn near the same. Both have Abraham, Jesus, Moses, pretty much the same stories. Even the Christian Old Testament is pretty much the same up to a point.

Muslims believe in hell but also a gracious god that will forgive their sins and keep them out of hell. Hell is not eternial for them.
Jews don't believe in hell.
Christians have the 7 deadly all of which revolve around real estate.
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Re: Some Religious Controversy...

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:08 pm

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Post: # 139260Post dinowuff
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DaFoxx wrote:and I have the FSM
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That's Noodly Appendages... Get it right.

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Re: Some Religious Controversy...

Post: # 139262Post DaFoxx
Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:48 am

dinowuff wrote:
DaFoxx wrote:and I have the FSM
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That's Noodly Appendages... Get it right.

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Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:19 am

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