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Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby |3lack|ce » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:46 pm

Read as: Still more "Life in the USSA" or "Is this very post an act of CyberTerrorism?"

U.S. Grapples With How to Retaliate in Cyber-Attacks

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,524824,00.html

Editorial comments courtesy of |ce:

Whenever a government, any government, delves into the realm of surpressing or censoring free media societal freedom becomes endangered. What, precisely, constitutes "Cyber Terrorism"? Does it include direct attacks on websites, massive computer networks, or individuals? Most certainly. Does it include speaking out against one's government? If Congress and our President have their way, probably, which is precisely the endangerment of which I am speaking. There is no such thing as "A little bit of Censorship," or as our Socialist President wishes to call it, "Protection." Call your Congressman today and tell them to stay the hell off our internet.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby Panama Red » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:03 pm

Or:


Obama hasn't been blind to those concerns. In his May speech, he promised that the cybersecurity initiative he inherited from the Bush administration wouldn't compromise online privacy. "Our pursuit of cybersecurity will not--I repeat, will not--include monitoring private-sector networks or Internet traffic," he said


http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/07/privacy-cybersecurity-obama-technology-security-privacy.html

Tinfoil hats are on sale....check em out... :pleasantry:

By the by, when Bush instigated most of these issues with Homeland Security and created his own laws, what was the Government called then?...hmmmmm :breakfast:

Lewis says these laws may need to be amended to allow effective government monitoring systems, but he notes that the scandal surrounding the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping practices may have precluded that kind of legislation. "The trust that we created with privacy laws in earlier decades was destroyed by that warrantless surveillance," he says. "Rebuilding that trust needs to be part of this project, and it's not something you can do overnight."
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby |3lack|ce » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:46 pm

What was it called back then? Easy enough - Post 9/11 hysteria, typical American Overreaction, and the government (as usual) trying to take advantage of the people. We're 8 years older, and are supposed to be 8 years wiser now - are we really so complacent as to let Uncle Sugar stick that shaft in this much deeper?
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby rapier57 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:11 am

Well, supposedly 8 years wiser, but for some reason some still think Fox-not-the-new is a viable source of information.

Oh, well ...
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby Egaladeist » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:50 am

Speaking of ' Homeland Security '..more fun from the men in plaid :D

Expect your computer to be seized without suspicion

In what was presented to the public this week as a clarification of its privacy policy, the US Dept. of Homeland Security published a paper referring to new guidelines for its immigration and customs agents regarding how they may conduct border searches of travelers' computers and electronic media. Clarifying the existing law, both sets of guidelines reiterated the department's policy created during the previous administration: Agents may seize, detain, and/or retain individuals' PCs and media without having reason to suspect that those people or those machines and devices are connected with a crime.

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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby |3lack|ce » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:22 pm

Wow. Just....Wow. Not even probable cause eh? This is NOT good.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby SirDice » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:49 pm

Hmmm... Another reason for me to never set foot on US soil..

I already hated the ridiculous questionnaire, having my fingers printed and now they can just seize my laptop..

Forget it, you might have a great country but I'm not coming over, period.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby rapier57 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:49 am

Yeah, the rule is about a year old and they are still seriously considering this is valid policy.

Time for Homeland Security to get a lobotomy.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby Egaladeist » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 am

Not sure if this is history repeating itself and a new age of paranoia McCarthyism has dawned...or...this is just an excuse for Big Brother to prove George Orwell right ( albeit a little late ) and wrap the public around the government's proverbial middle finger ...

at any rate...if history is any indication of the present and future...

power once gained is rarely relinquished freely...things are going to get a whole lot worse before they get better.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby SirDice » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:13 pm

What I find really troublesome is that my own Dutch government is going in the same direction. In a few weeks you can only get a passport that will contain biometric data. It has RFID and the chip contains your photo and your fingerprints. Having your fingerprints stored on the passport itself isn't so bad but they're also going to store them in a centralized database. This centralized storage is a direct violation of the European data protection treaty.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby SirDice » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:43 pm

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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby dinowuff » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm

rapier57 wrote:Yeah, the rule is about a year old and they are still seriously considering this is valid policy.

Time for Homeland Security to get a lobotomy.


I thought having a lobotomy was a requirement for employment with the DHS :roll:
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby keezel » Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:45 pm

SirDice wrote:What I find really troublesome is that my own Dutch government is going in the same direction. In a few weeks you can only get a passport that will contain biometric data. It has RFID and the chip contains your photo and your fingerprints. Having your fingerprints stored on the passport itself isn't so bad but they're also going to store them in a centralized database. This centralized storage is a direct violation of the European data protection treaty.


Didn't Harry post something about a group at one of his black hat conferences setting up shop and scanning a bunch of RFID's to demonstrate how insecure they are? I honestly hope they gain ground and make it as widespread as WEP cracks to hopefully deter people from using RFID's.
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Re: Stand by for Heavy Seas on this one

Postby rapier57 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:44 pm

Unfortunately, RFID is being placed in our passports, driver licenses and bus passes, fer crying out loud!

It just will never end. The demos showing how drop dead simple it is to clone these things should be a clue for the ID-10-Ts putting this stuff out.

We're getting new bus passes in a month. They use RFID. I bet with a couple simple tools, I can clone them like crazy.

Not that I would. Or that I would sell them for beer money. I don't drink. Yeah, ...
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