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Funny story about MS

Post: # 17304Post Deeboe
Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:03 pm

Just read this on Slashdot, wanted to share:
Ballmer Beaten by Spyware
"At a Windows Vista reviewers conference, Microsoft platform president Jim Allchin told a rather amusing story about Steve Ballmer. Apparently, a friend asked him to rid his computer of the spyware and malware that had accumulated over the years. As the story goes, neither Ballmer nor Microsoft's top engineers could fix the infested computer. The article goes on to discuss and compare Microsoft's new security offering, Windows Live OneCare."
You can find the whole thing here:
http://australianit.news.com.au/article ... 5E,00.html

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Post: # 17307Post J_K9
Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:34 pm

From the article:
He lumped the thing back to Microsoft's headquarters and turned it over to a team of top engineers, who spent several days on the machine, finding it infected with more than 100 pieces of malware, some of which were nearly impossible to eradicate.

Among the problems was a program that automatically disabled any antivirus software.
Hahaha!

And that disabling AV software app.. Er.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't they have started the PC up in safe mode to stop it, and THEN tried installing the app?

// Unless you could get a piece of malware that would replace the Windows installer with its own one.. Which looks and acts the same except that it doesn't allow AVs to be installed.. Or any apps at all..

Funny article! Thanks Deeboe :D
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Post: # 17308Post Maverick
Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:48 pm

To be honest with you, it surprises me very little that Steve Ballmer had no luck in cleaning the machine himself - yea, he may be a top executive at MS, but what's that say for his tech knowledge? Nothing really, so you'd have no clue as to how much tech knowledge he really had - he very well could be at such a high position at MS merely because of his business smarts alone.. ;)

As far as the team of engineers working on the machine for 'days', I'd surely hope not - especially just for a 100 pieces of malware. I've worked on completely trashed machines with horrible infections and cleaned them in a matter of hours...

If that's the best a team of engineers can do, makes ya wonder... ;)
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Post: # 17329Post Panama Red
Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:13 pm

If that's the best a team of engineers can do, makes ya wonder.
And MS people can't understand why others get upset when they have to continiously patch their machines because of security flaws.....hhmmm. :mad:
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:36 am

Nice read!
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Post: # 17392Post xierox
Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:22 am

J_K9 wrote:And that disabling AV software app.. Er.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't they have started the PC up in safe mode to stop it, and THEN tried installing the app?
Some more advanced malware will start up even in Safe Mode.

You'd think that Steve would have enough money to pay someone to set up his machine right. :? I mean, heck, if the machine was that owned he obviously was running in Admin... Sheesh.

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Post: # 17420Post J_K9
Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:09 am

What makes me laugh is that even those top technicians couldn't fix the PC :shock: :lol:
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Post: # 17432Post xierox
Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:30 am

I find it odd that they couldn't fix it. :? If it's that hosed, you should just Repair Windows and call it done. You wouldn't even have to touch the user's files: Just repair, update, and call it done. A nice fix in less than two hours.

/shrug. :)

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Post: # 17466Post Panama Red
Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:07 pm

xierox wrote:I find it odd that they couldn't fix it. :? If it's that hosed, you should just Repair Windows and call it done. You wouldn't even have to touch the user's files: Just repair, update, and call it done. A nice fix in less than two hours.

/shrug. :)

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Post: # 17511Post Deeboe
Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:54 pm

I think it just goes to show how "out of it" Microsoft really is. They hear about these issues with users, but never actually see the problems. I hope this is an eye-opener for them.

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Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:53 pm

What makes me laugh is that even those top technicians couldn't fix the PC
To prove a point... download and run something from me then.

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Post: # 17800Post J_K9
Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:56 pm

Spec wrote:To prove a point... download and run something from me then.
Thanks for the offer, Spec. But, seeing as I can't download anything from school, I'm going to have to kindly decline it ;)
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Post: # 20349Post catch
Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:20 pm

To prove a point... download and run something from me then.
Well, I have been looking for "real world" test material for an XP64 based implementation of a Biba policy.

Do you have anything interesting that seeks to hijack the flow control of an existing process or just stuff that requires credentials to be explicitly granted?

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