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Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Egaladeist » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:49 pm

This is a map from 2006 of all the Countries ( green ) presently using the Metric System or is in the process of changing to it...

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presently only the US, Myanmar, and US created Liberia are not Metric...or not going Metric.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Vorlin » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:26 pm

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we did. At least then, everyone's on the same page...but I rather like standing out like that; kinda like that defiance factor, hehe!
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Panama Red » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:41 pm

What surprises me about the US holding out,is with the Metric System you can get more bang for the buck as it is easier to break it down by the millilitres and charge accordingly then it is to charge by the pint or gallon, take our stupid system for example...

You guy's pay $2.50 per Gallon for gas, that's (without using Imperial or US exchanges) 0.6250 per Ltr, we on the other hand are currently paying 0.7789 per litre which converted to Gallon is $3.12 per Gallon, see how easy it is to baffle the consumer into thinking it's better if it's metric... :pleasantry:

So with that reasoning, I am surprised most of your agricultural industry doesn't use the Metric System as they would get more Dollar back for less volume, when converting Lbs to Kilograms....but seeing as how we are both in a recession, maybe now they will rethink this and finally embrace the Metric System, has to happen as we are becoming more and more Global and a lot of the specs out there for most any product is in Metrics, everything from Electrical to Engineering to shipping and transportation......etc... :breakfast:
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby rapier57 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:08 am

We have adopted the metric system. As a matter of fact, all of our vehicles now use metric fasteners (nuts and bolts). My old wrenches just keep rounding off those metric nuts and bolts.

We even went to 9 and 10mm instead of .45 caliber in the military. Damn loss, I'd say. Maps and everything in the military is in metric.

I can still estimate distance in kilometers by eye--and I'm pretty good at it so you do not want me calling artillery on your position.

All our civilian things are metric, too. 5 and 10 K fun runs. No more 440. It is a 400 meter. Soda is sold in Liters.

So, we have adopted the metric system. We just still have other kids we love, too.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Aspman » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:12 am

Don't you just do like the UK?

We are officially metric but we can use the old measures if you like. Distances/speeds are in miles not Km. You buy beer in pints and often we still talk in feet, inches, pounds and ounces.

Where any accurate measurements are needed we switch to metric because the math is so much simpler.

Do American tradesmen work in /16ths of inches or mm? Tradesmen are often the first to adopt anything that makes their lives easier.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Kwiep » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:00 pm

Quite some measures in the military are still designated in or derived from the empirial system even outside US/UK, for example bullets. The 556 NATO rounds are derived from a .223 cal (or something) and there's the .50 cal still, etc.

Then again, most europeans don't even know that .50 means half an inch. Actually a friend of mine thought it to be a weight measure or something medievalish like the carat. Extreme example maybe.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Harbinger » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:50 pm

It would be nice if the general population got up to speed, but it's irrelevant. Anyone in medicine, science, engineering, etc. uses metric already and has for quite some time.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Vorlin » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:32 am

We've got a system that could be bettered by converting... :mrgreen:
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Harbinger » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:38 am

Aspman wrote:Do American tradesmen work in /16ths of inches or mm? Tradesmen are often the first to adopt anything that makes their lives easier.


An oversight on my comment. Auto Mechanics still use old English. You'll find many tools that still operate under 16ths of an inch.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Timaxe » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:34 pm

I'm working on a NASA project for my college where we've had various people say we should work with SI, or we should work with IP (US). Some of our customer's targets are specified in metric units, while others are in US customary units.

Basically all of the scientific goals have metric targets, while the practical goals are given in US units. With how many times the practical goals have changed, it would be a PITA to do conversions to metric to figure out how to address the changes.

In the end, we had to stick with US units because we can't source metric parts - they're just not available to us in the time frame we have. And also because we understand US specifications - we have text books with them, and lots of other books with them, as well as people who have experience working with them. I can't say the same about metric specifications.

There are some engineering specialties that would be much easier with metric units. Such as refrigeration and heating engineers. But we have to work with architects and other engineers, so this means we need to stick with the status quo to avoid any surprises.

Until I can buy all of the standard metric parts at the corner store, and then place orders for more unique parts and get them turned around in time, I don't see any rush to change. It's much more convenient to use American parts. I also own a Harley Davidson motorcycle, so I'm pretty used to using American pieces. Though some uninformed person made a bracket that has metric threads cut into it as an after market part...one of these days I'll have to redo it with American threading and sizes... :angry1:
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby |3lack|ce » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:09 pm

America actually 'adopted' the Metric system back in the 1970's, then decided it would be too much hassle and gave it up as a lost cause. This is why you see both English and Metric measured nuts, bolts, etc. here, and our speedometers all read in both Mph and Kph.

Metric is pretty much the standard in science and engineering, unless, as Timaxe pointed out above, you run out of the metric ones and have to use something.

Will we ever go fully metric? After hearing for years that we'd never see a black president in God's lifetime, I can no longer say probably not, but it's still highly unlikely at least until the baby boomers die off and a large movement takes place to teach our kids to use it rather than the English system.
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Aspman » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:44 pm

Didn't some space probe crash because there was a mix up in units between the European techies and the US techies?
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Timaxe » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:05 am

There's also been an airplane crash landing from such mix ups. See the Gimli Glider. I think it was Canada's fault though...
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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby Egaladeist » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:20 am

Well...we had just adopted the metric system at the time...so it was actually blamed on the fact the people gassing up the plane couldn't understand the significant difference between metric and standard measurements...so instead of gallons they fueled it up in litres without making the necessary conversions.

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Re: Should America Adopt the Metric Sysyem?

Postby |3lack|ce » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:38 am

Yanno Eg, making excuses doesn't help Canada's cause much...
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